schlooonginator: Honestly, I don't care what something "looks" like on video but rather how
does it actually work in real life. As mentioned, Shimano no longer uses
this design on off road groups. In fact, Shimano offers a superior to SRAM
shadow design that keeps the derailleur tucked under the cassette as
opposed to sticking out for a rock to knock it. SRAM has yet to confront
To be fair, I think SRAM did a lot of good coming into the game. Throughout
the 9 speed era SRAM arguably had better action in the shifting department
and they still make really good products although their high end groups
have enormously expensive price points. Shimano learned quickly that they
were no longer the only game in town and that XTR had serious
competition.When Shimano released 10 speed they made numerous improvements
to the very areas criticized which were finicky set up, required more
maintenance(to maintain accurate shifts) and too light shift action. People
loved XTRs patently buttery smooth shifts but found them a bit vague so
they retuned the entire pull ratio and geometry of derailleurs and shifters
to give a vivid feedback while eliminating to finicky and constant
maintenance. SRAM and Shimano are still very different in feel really and
ultimately its a personal choice. Do you prefer smooth light shifts or more
forcefull yet mechanical feeling sram? Just don't think you still need to
do a barrell adjust every second ride with Shimano anymore.
Calvin C: Shimano' old design, still used on road, is pretty clever, 2 horizontal
pivots separating the vertical forces from the parallelogram, but still has
the issue of c-g distances varying dramatically over time as it wears.
luis lopez ascencio: No se mueve nada
Callum Hildaclan: Truvativ is a part of SRAM, SRAM owns Truvativ.
tony montero: sram el mejor me cambio a sram
Sonny Christofilis: SRAM is great But Novatec, dt, truvativ and shimano are a tiny bit better
Cannibal Christ: i have a deore on my bigfoot it totally kicks ass i don't care what you
sram freaks say either its just my opinion and moving around doesn't mean
anything like all these videos try to say
drbroccoli: Shimano makes great cranks and front derailleurs. For rear derailleurs,
chains and shifters, go SRAM.
tinkeramt: No son de la misma gama,ademas la cadena del desbiador deore esta mas
larga, XTR & SRAM DEORE & SRAM no
bandoboy32: it soesnt matter about movement. as long as it provides clean quick shifts.
shimano rapes sram
Anderson Trindade: Good video... thank you!!
polskiZiomek: That chain was too long for shimano, that's why it looks that crap. Look in
what position is Sram sign and Shimano. The shimano is not stretched. There
should be screw some where to set the stretch up.
theluckyman74: @TheIncridibleOne McDonalds is also the largest fast food franchise, but
does that mean they make the best food?
aldila rizkyansyah: I hate SRAM . Shimano is better . I try x5 x6 x7 x9 thats so bad really bad
. They not saving my money. Too fast broke. A lot of many problem sram
gears . Now i'm using SLX , XT , for my two bikes . I used 2 years ago .
But i'm not looking problem with my gears set shimano , diffrent with sram .
acoustic4037: At 0:46 the sram is on the smallest cog. Your observation might be
incorrect. IMHO either one can run for a decade easily w/ no issues. It
depends too much on abuse and maintenance. I have run sram since 1997 with
zero issues to this day. I also ran a ton of shimano with no issues either,
except that I like grip shift better than rapid fire. IMHO anyone who
breaks 2 of these things is doing something wrong, even if that means they
are lending the bike to an abusive friend unknowingly.
efe1303: Thank you for this awesome video!
powerworr: the chain is moving the samo by both derailleurs !!!!!
Miko Tolosa: thanks man.. been riding with deore rd and works really fine at all..^^
bryan0102: sram x5 sucks ass mine broke 2day first day of owning it
GrizzlyRecoveryZone1: So what exactly does this comparison prove? Deore is designed to move like
that and to absorb shock that way. Pointless vid...
Sam Williamson: SRAM products are more cheaply made (which often accounts for weight
savings) I've been a heavy cyclist for years and also a shop mechanic. I'm
almost out of fingers to count how many SRAM components I've broken, but
I've never broken a Shimano component. I've used both brands in the past
about equally, but am currently phasing out all of my SRAM and replacing it
with Shimano. I feel this way about both SRAM's road and mountain
Sobakus: The only thing bad about SRAM is that in many slavic languages it means
"shame/disgrace" lol :D
Kissmybumper234: @theluckyman74 First of all, you are comparing apples to oranges here.
Shimano is the biggest producer but that in no way means they don't use
quality materials to make their products. Your analogy fails.
Tlotzin Martinez: OK, tenía mis dudas con que grupo iba a equipar mi bicicleta, pero creo que
apostaré por SRAM X.5...
Bruno Miguel: i have deore shadow and its very good
DRUMSTUDDZ: I'd like to see the XX and the XTR head on.. BOTH on the same gears.. BOTH
on the same trails.. BOTH on the same day and weather condition.. then we
will see how BOTH do..
britney00: mike- You'll be fine. I have a lot of SRAM parts but your Shimano setup is
great too. This video is next to pointless. If the video showed how
bouncing affected shifting, THEN it would show something important.
Otherwise, this video is irrelevant.
eixvo: I've ridden with both , the shimano with in a few days of use was battered
and bruised to the point where i had three gears that i could use on my
back cluster ,the sram is still working like the day i got it . the shimano
managed to chip the pain on my bike it bounced so much.
mauricio corvalan: @GekO1 si puede ser , pero si tengo que elegir me quedo cn el saint ademas
el sram de este vidio se come el abuso ante el otro
tramvaj12: @VictorSobakus LOL, I did not notice that and it is on Serbian as well same
meaning SRAM=SHAME :) But on other hand pronounce of SCOTT bike is
something as BASTARD :)
Perv Ert: Come to think of it I've been riding with a deore derailleur for about 3
years now and I've never cared about it bouncing around, it does but I
honestly can't think of a time where that has actually had an effect on my
riding. If it ever breaks or stops working well I'll take it into
consideration but if it doesn’t effect my riding it doesn't bother me.
Tomaš Machan: Saint Forever!!:D
Azarien: All we see here is that Deore is shaking more than X.5 on very rough
terrain. It does not necessarily mean that X.5 is better in all
HondaRaycer: This is a very interesting comparison video. I use SRAM, but my husband
uses Shimano. His shimano has been tough as nails. My SRAM is a bit more
fickle, then again I also ride differently than he does.
Armando Olivas: eeeah no vale madre shimano... jaja mejor sram!!!
galemak: Yeah i use shimano and i am really impressed of it accualy it works
perfect...and my opinion is that the shimano is better becouse it absorbes
the inpacts and with that u gain more live...my friend use sram and yes
they are preatty good but they got less life than shimanos...
LotusCortina4: All very nice. Unfortunately, the video can't show that my Deore has lasted
6 years, and is still going strong. Neither can it show the amount of Sram
X.5's and X.7's we used to get returned to my shop. The stopper is plastic,
allowing overshift and eventually a mech in the rear wheel. Nice.
Misterio415: exacto hermano .Deore Shadow vs SRAM x5 INSTEAD .beside deore looks like it
wouldnt snap as easily as Sram
SuperSoupable: are the deore shadow is the same as x5 in movement?
hoolgolo13: siema IN POLAND ,,SRAM,, IS FIRST ------PRODUCT
Reybgd: Sta pricate seljaci jedni iz Amerike, samo nesto serete ko magarci...ponika
je zakon, kakav Shimano, kakav Sram, sram da vas bude...
okhabin: depends on rear or front. you cant use sram shifter with shimano rear
drailleur. but you can use shimano front with sram shifter. shimano=2:1
sram=1:1 (front doesn't matter)
brentsrx7: My Sram parts are bullet proof, I have had less consistent performance from
Shimano personally but both companies make kick ass parts.
Miko Tolosa: thanks for the great vid. but i'm just a little too late. i bought Shimano
Deore RD M531 just today. should have bought SRAM..='(
VirtuosoX1: @youhenyo Im considering a new giant talon 29er, is the X5 durable? will it
handle rough terrain with quick shifting? personally i had two shimanos
that never did the job right :(
PeppinoGamerPc: Sram x5 forever -3
SarsaNiTomas: @mikoece002 been riding on me bike with deore and guess what compared to my
bike with sram x5. i kinda visit my bike tech(s) more often with shimano
deore to what ??? adjust the rear derailuer.....
Thundermand: And how can it provie quick and clean shifts if it's bouncing like that.