Reloading Slug Loads For 12 Gauge Shotgun - Part 4 The Wad




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Mike Miszuk: is it required to trim down the wad pedals? Does it affect any of the flight characteristics of the slug or do you trim them just to get a better crimp?

Ben Wilkinson: Hi FortuneCookie, not sure if you've run across or tried these but I've had really good results with Ballistic Products PT1205 wads with both the 1oz and 7/8oz Lee slugs with a 1/8" cork spacer. Cheers

James Pak: You talk like Christopher Walken lol

joshua monk: I was using the lee 7/8 and em having this problem with the waa12 wad. I don't knock y anyone els have this problem? Think the mold mite b bad? Il try trimming the wad and see. Ps thanks for all the grate vids look foreword to more! 

afterthefox7: Why are you talking like that?

Surly Bob: I load both the 7/8 oz and the 1 oz. using Winchester wads such as the grey and the white wads. The point of the key slug was to use a rifled barrel in the shotgun for optimum accuracy, Only problem is the plastic squirts up into the slug when it is shot - and messes up the accuracy. So to fix that you need to use a nice hard 20 gauge nitro card under the slug at the bottom of the shot cup. I shot these out of my Benelli SBII with rifled barrel and they are EXTREMELY accurate. This allows the wad to spin in a rifled barrel and the "key" part of the slug grips into the wad just enough to keep the slug spinning with the wad. You want the wad/slug to spin for accuracy and then you want the wad to drop away cleanly. With the nitro card they do every time. I used wheel weight lead and these slugs ended up cutting down a 4" tree behind my target at 50 yards. They are effective and cheap and would stop a bear in it's tracks....thanks for the videos! 

Bayan1905: I have a 16 gauge shotgun I plan on loading slugs for, BUT you can't get molds to cast for 16 gauge, but I have seen guys using .577 Minie balls in their shotgun slug loads. Have you ever seen anyone playing around with those for slugs?

bullboo1: So whats best high brass or low brass to eload..which wads, etc Will it work with buckshot? what about 1 ounce and one a 1 1/4 ounce slugs, buck etc? Rilfed chokes?

MrAndrewsiii: That is the wrong wad... WA12SL they are pink and claybusters makes a sub that you can get from MidwayUSA for about half the price of WW........and they work perfect for the Lee slug.................

blackriflex39: im curious as to why you didn't just get a correct weight wad..

Jerry Spriinger: Checking my reloading data it says that the WAA12 is the correct wad to use with a 1oz slug, it doesn't say anything about the 7/8oz slug. It does list the WAA12F114 wad as the correct one to use for 9-OO buck.

Sprayanimal: Do you use a spacer card under the slug. In your video when you push on top of the slug it forces wad pedals outward. I tried some Claybuster 7/8 oz silver wads but accuracy was terrible and left a tremendous amount of trash behind. I'm going to get some of there white lightings and try agin. 

Punishum: I am very new to this so Mucho Mahlo for the info especially on the wad. 

1hunterdale: i use them slugs to kill deer with 7/8 slug u put a 1/2 in filler felt wad in the shot cup wad to take up the space and they crimp just fine and shoot very good out to 100 yards some shoot them tho turkey tubes to just fine

Tommy Rad: Funny that you mentioned that. I have been thinking of doing videos based on my inherent.....ahem.... frugality LOL. Lots of ideas, not much of a following though, in my uneducated opinion. Let's see if my math was correct. Free hulls, free lead, wad- 1.8 cents, primer- 3 cents, powder- 4.1 cents [19.5gr red dot]. Oops not 7 cents, but 8.9 cents total each load. Just an extra couple copper-plated zinc pennies worth LOL. I'll have to start picking up Once-Shot wads now LOL. Have a good one!

gun nut: is 28-29 grains max or starting?

daniel quevedo: Soo ill see how they go but have seen your vid on the wads and the wooden dowel when you push it down I did the same thing it was tight but went all the way Hopefuly not confusing

John Clarke: How much do u cut off the wad and will the winchester wads not work for the lee slug?

521Bobcat: Are you ALF?

FortuneCookie45LC: gun nut - It is not recommended to substitute a slug for shot when considering powder and powder charges. Yes, you see people opening up shotshells, dumping the shot and popping in a slug and shooting them. The manufacturers do rigorous testing to determine safety of loads they recommend. You can actually find loads taken out of the Lyman Shotshell Handbook with recommended slug loads - powders are usually slower burning than the ones they use for target/field shot loads. Best regards

FortuneCookie45LC: daniel quevedo-I got a bag of those gray wads to try - the slug fits REAL nice into that wad, but the column is too tall to allow my powder charge, wad and slug to get a nice closed crimp. Good wad though - I'm going to try it with the new slug from the 525gr Lyman that I just got.

FortuneCookie45LC: daniel quevedo-The dowel test shows that your wad slug combination is good. Snug or tight is fine and safe. If you have to pound a wad/slug through, the pressures will be higher. Best Regards...

Austin Frey: Thanks for the info, I was having a problem with my remington wads and these slugs, the pedals were to long and when I would press the wad down the pedals would bulge out of the hull, i will try cutting the wads, I'm sure it will solve my problem.

FortuneCookie45LC: rongay81276-Slugs are recommended for use in cylinder or IC bores. However, they are designed so that if fired in a FC barrel, they will still go through without trouble. Accuracy is usually best from IC or cylinder bores, so your report of good accuracy from FC is good to hear. If your dimes don't go through, then your FC is still good. Since you are getting good safe results, why change anything? But other shooters doing slugs and FC may not be good or even safe…Good shootin' to ya...

FortuneCookie45LC: 1hunterdale-Thanks for posting the valuable information. Other Tubers do read the comments and this is good info. I appreciate you taking the time to post.

albert johnson: What would be the pressure for 31 grains of unique with this load in your estamation?

ElijahMFearon: YOU ATE MY CAT!

mountainmandan007: What hull would you recommend for all around use...Buckshot & slug? I'm loading for shtf, wrol. I also want to make up some flechette rounds using the newer hardened steel flechettes. I will make some slug and buck and ball and buck rounds also. That's why I want to go with clear hulls so I can see exactly what's in them. I pray to God I never use these rounds for anything except target practice!

FortuneCookie45LC: gun nut-good question - reason it's OK is the 1 oz slug uses less powder by 2 grains so that equalizes the load column. 30-31 grains of Unique in the 7/8 oz slug load; and the 1 oz takes 28-29 grains. These are safe in my guns. There is a bit of compression leeway in the loads also to allow crimps to be fine for both slugs. If you like the lighter loadings with Unique 25 grains, you might even need a taller wad or fiber filler wad to avoid collapsed crimps. Unique is very flexible powder.

John Clarke: Ok sweet thx

gun nut: i bought these from my local reloading shop for 11.99 per 500 but they are the replacement CB-1114-12 is there a difference between my wads vs your wads? or are the exactly the same

FortuneCookie45LC: gun nut-DownRange DRA-12, Winchester WAA12F114 and ClayBusters CB1114-12 are all equivalent wads for 12 gauge 1 1/4 oz shot loads - work well with Lee slugs. Shot is forgiving in the shot cups, slugs are not-so the fit may not be perfectly identical. However, as you note, the Lee slug is a tight fit in the DR wad- but the slug centers well in loading with the shortened petals and when the round goes off, the slug WILL be properly seated into the DR wad. You have to try CB wad for accuracy

OMEGAMANxxi: I have reloaded those for years,the wad wont increase pressure if it a little tight-the plastic will compress.Now do not think I am saying length is not important - it is important dont cut the wad I never do,but I use a card spacer to prevent the wad sticking to the slug. Think about how much the shot pushes against the petals when it is fired.When it ignites and that pushes against that load of pellets the side force would be great.

FortuneCookie45LC: calebowens91-Thanks for the comment - It always amazes me when one person calls another a f----- anything, because that person is actually wishing the other the best. I wouldn't mind being a f----- idiot, but only three times a week because I can't do more than that. And if you call anyone an idiot - well, my friend, we are all idiots part of the time, that's being human. The trick is not to be an idiot all the time. The video is on slug loads, not shot loads, please do not lose context.

gun nut: okay ill have to give it a try thanks !

FortuneCookie45LC: gun nut-if your claybusters is the CB 1114-12, that is supposed to be same as the WAA12F114 and the DRA-12 (Downnrange) wads. Cut the powder charge to 25 grains to start and experiment with the amount of petal shortening to give best accuracy. I haven't used the CB wad so can't speak from experience - but they are supposed to be the same, but hardness of plastic may vary a bit. Your combination is definitely workable. Let me know how it goes..

FortuneCookie45LC: Daniel - Thanks for the question - Wisconsin - the home of Lee Precision, the Green Bay Packers and the great state from where my son-in-law came from? And the answer is no. Best regards...

gun nut: when im looking at reloading data cant i look up a 1 oz load and instead of shot just put a slug? or do i need to put a special slug load in?

Ron Gay: Ha ha great Alf reference there!

John Clarke: U said in the vid its good for improved and cyinder bores. Will it work for a smooth bore?

daniel quevedo: I see people shooting cut shell slugs that's quite a big slug but since its bird shot it can be smashed down when it's shot and be safe for the barrel since my cast slugs are solid thay will not be smashed like the bird shot

FortuneCookie45LC: albert johnson- Good hunting to you…That Rossi will do the job especially with those heavy bullets-either jacketed or hardcast should do nicely. Put 'em in the boiler room and ya got ground moose meat for the winter…Best Regards...

FortuneCookie45LC: ae70gts-That's a great question. Thru the years, I've tried a LOT of different wads. The search for accuracy with our slug reloads is easy if we accept 6" groups at 50 yards. Trying to get 2" groups at 50 yards is difficult. In the past, I've gotten that, and then when I make a lot of that load, I find that the accuracy is not consistent. Factory loads are, but we can't get those wads or slugs. And I've tried different barrels - latest is the rifled barrel. All fun though and blasters!!

FortuneCookie45LC: gun nut-The 28-29 grains Unique is maximum for my shotguns. Not knowing your gun and components, it is always wise to start low by a good 10% and check for safety (primer signs, extraction, excessive blast or recoil, etc). So 25 grains would be a good start and go up by 1/2 - 1 grain. You might like the 25 grain Unique load-will give you 1175 fps. 28 grains will give you about 1385fps.

FortuneCookie45LC: ElijahMFearon- the cat? the Cat! The CAT!! Heaven forbid…Let's go watch some more TV...

mountainmandan007: So I just ordered 8lbs of unique and 2000 209 primers that burn hotter than the average one and 1,000 of the shotcups you recommended. I hope the Fiocchi 2 3/4 hulls are acceptable. They are clear so I can see what load they are. Using your load approximately how many slugs can I get out of 8lbs of unique? Thank you sir!!!

albert johnson: Thanks i should of remembered that.Going moose hunting next week.Taking my 92 Rossi.

gun nut: what wad should i use for 1oz slug with a AA hull, federal primer, and unique powder???

mountainmandan007: I chose the Remington 887 nitromag. tactical. it's a great weapon but only after you send it back and have Remington adjust everything the way it should have come off the line like. I would appreciate any info you could give me sir. thanks again!

Daniel Engo: Are you from Wisconsin?
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