mp4podcastDOTcom: Just a heads up early adopters of the GH3 have had the hotshoe come loose. Putting anything heavy on the GH3 can make the hotshoe come loose or break. Not everyone is having this problem. There is a video on YouTube called by a YouTuber called
Review of Quick Cage (DSLR small) with a Lumix GH3
TheBillswill: GH3 dynamic range improvement is worth the price of admission alone!. It's about $999 most places now and the stills are actually awesome. Yeah the crop changed a tiny bit...about 10% range sizewise...but the pluses add up to a very very good buy at under $1k.
azuremain: Hi Peter, thanks for your time commenting on my video. I normally shoot at 24p and 1/50 shutter speed and I believe I did so too on that night. Maybe I accidentally touched the dial. I have to simulate the situation again and see what happens. Again, thanks and you got a great channel.
azuremain: With firmware V1.1 my GH2 can shoot both at 24p and 25p.
azuremain: No, just firmware V1.1. Don't see no reason to hack. As you can see the picture is great and the original footage on my harddisk looks even better.
Cameron Fischer: Was the GH2 hacked?
Cameron Fischer: Amazon has them for $1k now, it's tempting. Most of the improvements are in the body and features with slight improvements in the video quality.
TONYLOUIS100: The GH3 is meant to be a upgraded camera and has flaws. Panasonic has a smaller sensor crop on the GH3. This may be causing the problem with Moiré which can be distracting while making a video. Having to change f stops and the focal distance, to minimise the effects of Moiré during a shoot when you have found the perfect natural composition distance and depth of field will be interfering with your film making decision. The GH3 is flawed. It has made advances in many areas but is flawed
PeterGregg: Nice work, but slightly misleading. The GH3 is the better image.
Flickering is a result of the shutter speed the camera is using. You can kill the flickering by changing the shutter speed. Start with a shutter speed of 1/60 (1/50 eur) and go lower. Also try and stay with a ratio of your FPS speed - 30P or 24P.
Moire will disappear if you change the F Stop or the focal distance. It happens when harmonization happens when all things align right. Change something to make the moire disappear :)
Gyanendra Gurung: Just had my GH2 stolen along with my 14-140 lens from my room in HK. Am thinking of the GH3 as a replacement. Hope its worth it or better.
azuremain: Nope, just my hobby, inspired by lots of very good people on youtube and vimeo etc.
mp4podcastDOTcom: Your GH2 24p or 25p?
CineMarktography: GH3 can shoot 60fps 1080, while GH2 can only shoot 60 at 720. GH3 has a more robust, weather proofed body. GH3 can shoot at a much higher bitrate than a non-hacked GH2. To get a high bitrate with GH2 you have to hack it. And honestly, I felt the GH2 and GH3's moire were equally bad in different ways.
CineMarktography: I get flicker problems all the time with my GH2 just like as seen in the GH3 clip.
CineMarktography: I felt like the GH3 rack focus was better.
autofasurer: Damn... Looks like the GH2 is better in crop factor, artificial light flicker, moiré,...
What makes the GH3 better then... I'm now doubting again...
clapperboards: Are you a film student?
John B: I think I'm going to hold onto my gh2 for awhile longer.
ViverProd: GH2 FTW!!! mostly, but for low light, gh3 wins
azuremain: GH2: Cinema, GH3: All -2 Standard
Tyson Wheeler X: Do the GH2 and GH3 match each others look or did you have to do color correcting in post to make them match?
Gerald Rusche: Ja wenn Ruhe und Zeit ist klappt Klappdisplay das recht gut ;). Aber da ich wegen 'nem Kran mir jetzt eh ein 7" zulegen werde...Gruß aus Oldenburg nach Berlin
mp4podcastDOTcom: The rack focusing seems better on the GH2.
mp4podcastDOTcom: Thanks. I found another problem about the GH3 there is a really bad audio clipping problem. I posted on philipbloom DOT> NET website under "Panasonic GH1/ GH2 etc" called
"Panasonic Lumix GH3 Audio Limiter/Leveler Issue"
I'll send you a direct link.
azuremain: No, it's not visible on the display. Btw, I had this flickering again recently. I'll talk to Panasonic about this.
mp4podcastDOTcom: Some last question can you see the flick problem on the LCD screen on the GH3 to help avoid the problem when filming?
mp4podcastDOTcom: Yeah that's kind of a bummer for the GH3. I know the GH1 and GH2 have problems with lights like lines come out kind of like a star. But GH1 and GH2 I can not remember seeing a flicker problem.
Thanks for the test I would have never known to look out for this flicker problem.
azuremain: Both cameras 24fps, 1/50s.
mp4podcastDOTcom: When you got the flick on the GH3 was the shutter double the frame rate or was it more then double the frame rate?
azuremain: I never shoot auto, always fully manual.
mp4podcastDOTcom: GH3 with the light flicking did you have the camera in auto mode or did you set the shutter? I know if the shutter is to high you can have flicker?
mp4podcastDOTcom: I think you can get away with a filter on the GH3. I saw some side by side test and the GH3 is the sharpest camera there is even a RED EPIC.
I saw a side by side video of GH2 Vs Sony Nex 7 filming at 60p and the GH2 is 720p 60p and the Sony Nex 7 is 1080p 60p and the GH2 was way sharper then the Sony Nex 7. It also comes down to the way the pixels get rendered out.
azuremain: Not just better low light capability, for me the GH2 is superior in all other categories. Panasonic just added lots of new functions to the GH3 and packed it in a neat, ergonomic metal body. But at the end of the day what counts is the picture quality. Yes, the pocket Black Magic is tempting, but do I need a new computer/software for that (codec etc.)? Btw, benutzen Sie den Schwenkbildschirm an der GH2 zum manuellen Fokusieren und klappt das auch ordentlich? Bin übrigens aus Berlin ;-)
azuremain: Absolutely, moire/aliasing was the major reason I "binned" my Canon 600D. I know what you mean, we don't have lotta brick building here, but also many other urban structures - just nerve wracking but thanks to the GH2 I never had to worry anymore. The GH3 really disappoints in that department. I never considered add-on AA filters as they're said to soften the picture.
azuremain: Glad you like it. You're right, no need to get the GH3 as an ambitioned prosumer. It's also simpler on the GH2, just set cinema video mode and cinema picture style, bam always good. I use my GH3 almost exclusively for photos now, LOL.
Gerald Rusche: I'm so hppy with my GH2. And your test will confirm. The only pus i see on GH2 is the low light capability. The scene at the doorway on GH3 has more light but lookes as a video. The GH2 has more filmic style.
So my next cam will definitely not be GH3, maybe a MFT-BMCC?
azuremain: No hack, just firmware V1.1
azuremain: Both are PAL.
Axier Etxebarria: With the GH2 which hack you used
свободный художник: something wrong with gh3, - is gh2 pal - and gh3 ntsc ?
свободный художник: Gh2 still Better camera in all test, gh3 - worse than GH1
mp4podcastDOTcom: Thanks for the test. I have two GH2 camera. Kind of want a GH3 but can not make up my mind. for low light the GH3 is a winner, but the moire and aliasing is kind of a deal breaker as I live in Boston and filming down with old brick building and moire being a head ache.
If you google "Caprock Filter" there is a company that makes a really good aliasing and moire filter will will soften the image but all aliasing and moire will be removed.
Gordon Burns: Interesting - thanks. I have a GH2 (currently hacked) and have been thinking of buying a GH3. I have to say the GH2 (even un-hacked) still performs wonderfully well. I don't think from this test alone the would be any great urgency to rush out and buy a GH3 especially at the current price. In some tests I have see the sharpness and clarity of the video image from the GH3 does appear more evident over the GH2, but for the price the GH2 is fabulous still.
sjs2657g: The moire is terrible on the GH3. The discussion about the artificial lights flickering at the same frame rates/shutter rates, might have something to do with the sensor, and the moire.
Specifications and numbers on paper sometimes don't tell the whole story. This is the case this time.
I am curious, when the bokeh test was shot, were both cameras set up exactly the same? The GH3 had deeper, richer colors, as if the GH2 had an extra 1/2 stop of exposure. Might be the different sensors.
azuremain: It's not about the body at all. Mind you the GH3 has a different sensor than the GH2 which is even very obvious when comparing the crop factor. As the sensor is a major component of a camera, a comparison is certainly justified.
Madeline Mantiss: Comparing bokeh between GH2 and GH3 is meaningless. With sensor size and format pretty much the same for both models, bokeh effects is more a function of what lens you are shooting with than what GH body you are using.
Panasonic Lumix GH2 vs. GH3 Comparison (Bokeh, Aliasing, Moire, Low Light, Crop Factor etc.)4.9
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