Do Electric Superchargers Work?




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Rokas Getautas: i have another little idea, which is completely theoretical. why not make a turbo that works just like a supercharger. you add a pulley to your crankshaft and instead of an electric motor put a pulley on that turbo (bigger pulley on the crank and very tiny pulley on the turbo so the rev amplification gets that turbo to actually do something). it would boost engine power at any revs. even when it idles you'd get some boost.

Roger Colinayo: i think electric supercharger / turbocharger are good for eliminating the turbo lag. If we can use twin turbo one electric turbo and 1 conventional turbo during low rpm engine, electric turbo can help create pressure instantaneously then at a certain speed the conventional turbo will fill in as the engine back pressure is increasing.

honda12345678: I work in an industry that builds, installs, maintains pumps, motors, gearboxes drives, gas turbines all kinds of high tech mechanical and high voltage electrical systems. ALL superchargers rob power to make power. Hence why they are belt or gear driven. Some will use between 10-70 hp to make an additional 100hp. I work on small and large compressors, blowers, and apparently none of you guys know what it requires to build pressure. what you see here is a FAN not a compressor. The required power to drive a 10-30hp driven supercharger would not be happily driven off a 12 V battery. a 30 HP electric motor is huge and weighs well over a 100 pounds. This crap is a gimmick and a joke. You cannot build power with a little wal mart Chinese fan. Turbo's are even more complicated and run so hot you'll melt any piece of crap wire even close to it.

너 자신 치유: if you get a turbo charger or a super charger why go through all the trouble modifying it and slapping on an electric motor when u can just use the it in the car? lol

Jay Finke: you need a high speed motor like a harbor freight grinder, it spins about 12000 rpm. the so called scam the white pump shown actually does work on small 4 cylinder motors, I have found towing my boat. (it's not a crazy amount) but allows more air to pass through the air filter. I used it in short burst to help pass cars on the freeway or to get up to speed. and can be done for around $50.00.. truck used was a 1990 S10 W/ 2.5 motor 5 speed

Juandiego Gonzalez: does your electric supercharger that you made work?

ProRockJK: This crap don't make no boost!!!! Put it in a Dino bro. 

tuscolian: To create a device like this, you need to understand the engineering of physics and aerodynamics. Using a turbocharger compressor gets you part way there as they have a pressure map. The turbo is an air compressor and an engine is an air pump. To develop pressure between them, you need to produce more air volume than the engine requires normally.You would need to spin the shaft at increasing speed with an increased RPM of the engine. I takes a lot of HP to produce that much volume and pressure. I'm skeptical of how economical an electric motor big enough to make that much HP would be, not to mention a high power motor controller.

Daimon Hill: To all the people saying "Not Possible" ... you realise that for around $50 you can get a 40,000 RPM brushless (90% efficiency) RC helicopter motor that is approx 1.2Kw and puts out around 2NM torque, and is 36mm x 65mm in size (Turnigy XK series) Sure, it draws 80A max, and sure an ESC (Electronic Speed Controller) will run you another $100, and would probably only make 3 or so PSI... but thats with a FEW minutes of looking... you can get some REALLY impressive brushless DC motors if you know where to look

HitMaker Luis: what motor did you use on that turbo?

Anthony Goss: Hello DO u have DYI video of building your own supercharger from brushless motor thanks

ryan akers: I have a question. is the one you made direct drive and the motor spins to 38000? because if it is you can gear that thing higher and it can spin much faster. and it will loose torque but im not positive but I don't think torque is the thing you need I think it is pure turbine speed. tell me what you think, thanks Ryan

Eduardo Martinez: Does anyone know where i can get a turbo charger for a nissan pick hardbody. Its a 97.

Scott Charnes: I think a better way of putting it would be bilge blower is like a small ram air that doesn't ad boost and that's all. we all know it works on car that are build with it have gains but there very small, look at old musel cars it helped very little. but yes they r scams 

Joshua Naranjo: F1 cars use something similar but it's complicated cross between a turbo, electric pulled, and a generator with a management system...supposedly incredible gas mileage,torque and power. Of course tons more involvement on the engineering side of things

Tehnoob00: @B2B DIY Electric Supercharger Manual I would like to see one of these on a dyno test. that is real proof. words can mean a million things but before i start spending money on something ridiculous like this, show real proof.

Eric Nutter: I want to know how long a battery can sustain the current required to spin that motor at the 20,000 to 30,000 rpm required to get boost.

ProRockJK: Ok this freaker down here keeps saying my electric turbo makes boost blah blah blah blah My English sucks so what but I least I'm not dumb like you that thinks that lil pice of crap will make boost or power to the engine Just saying you get more air driving in the freeway to your engine than that crap just saying 

Alexander B.: I don't understand why people on here are saying that turberchargers don't work. Do they even understand how COMPRESSED MAF works? It's been proven already. There's math that goes along with it to explain it.

Firefighter20: Easy fix, Buy a car with a Turbo! 

epcenter5hz: This Guy sounds like "Just Blaze"

jake stockton: Coming from a mechanic, these are gimmicks. End of story. Move along everyone. There's nothing more to see here. 

TheDudeAr: Why WOULDN'T an electric supercharger work? The only difference between electric vs mechanically driven is just that. There will be a parasitic loss of driving the generator off the crank to create the power to drive the electric supercharger, but this is NO different than a mechanical superchargers belt coupled to the crank pullet. An electric driven supercharger will have slightly less efficiency due to having to convert the energy to electric and again back to mechanical at the supercharger, losses will be in the form of heat. Someone slap one on already to shut these internet know it alls up. - Power Engineer

werner campher: Volvo incorporate electric and air driven 

Frank Furter: WHY is it that you think you'd need all of those batteries if the alternators are pumping out gobs of power in the numbers that you cited? How long do you think anyone would need to run the alternators to run the equivalent HP in an AC motor like you cited from Baldor? Constantly? What are the RPM of that electric motor? It's probably like around 1,725 or so, and that is why it needs to be such a honkin' beast to make 30 HP. And it's most likely a 440/460V 3 phase AC motor too. Do you know what the differences are between AC motors and DC motors? Stop and think here for a minute or two, PLEASE! Deep cycle batteries are able to take a bit more abuse than standard automotive ones, but they're not the end of all creation. How far down do you think you'd be drawing down a battery of any type for a sporadic use such as this anyway? Batteries store electrons in the acid electrolyte, that's why the specific gravity changes when the battery is charged up and is discharged. Distilled water is used in batteries to keep the concentration of the H2SO4 at the correct percentage rather than tap water because the dissolved minerals will cause problems. But in all of this, I never once said anything to advocate using an electric motor to run a super charger, did I? Maybe it can be done with a permanent magnet starter motor that has been modified for short bursts of power, but NOT for continuous duty as you seem to think would be the situation. Randy

tom5051666: Great video :)

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Stefan Cvetanovic: hello ! i have one question . i saw electric superchargers on ebay ,and i was wondering ,can i install this kind of supercharger on my kymco agility 50 ccm scooter? :D

Fred Perez: where is an actual video of a real test on a car in a dyno

Andres Perez: 1) So this electric supercharger can compress air and produce boost because the motor can spin at high RPM? 2) How much torque does the electric motor have at these RPM? 3) How much back-pressure can it take before having any kind of compressor surge? 4) How is the impeller speed controlled for different RPMs and boost settings? 5) Did you adjust the OEM compressor map for the air resistance vs electric power?

Tom Tangle: Im tryna figure out the mechanical electrical relationship... Does the power created from the car battery spin the impellar to specific speeds depending on rpm ? 

73eug: I have a question for you: what has cooked your wife? Joke :-)

Peter Gotham: electric super chargers do not work

ThatGUY1027: An electric supercharger could work if you had a powerful enough electric motor. I can tell you right now, that little brushless motor will not be strong enough... It might spin it up to your desired rpm but as soon as it is loaded from boost it will not keep up. I worked for a ProCharger dealer and have extencive experience with both installation, designing of mounts and drive systems. I have personally seen the larger blowers bend/break/flex thick billet mounts and break large cogged belts! For an extreme example the F2 ProCharger with an impeller speed of 61,264 RPM making 32.9 Psi of boost has a parasitic HP loss of 353.6 HP!!!!!!!! here is a quick article on some ProCharger testing http://www.dragzine.com/news/lose-power-to-make-power-procharger-parasitic-loss-testing/ -Automotive Engineer

Caleb Anderson: I wanna buy one where can i get one

Honesty Counts: For a true electric supercharger to work it has to have a LOT OF POWER, at least 20 to 40 hp motor attached to it, and a motor like that is as large as the typical car battery, so you will need a lot of room in the engine bay just for that alone and that's usually not possible. For that much power you are going to need a wire to the motor that is as thick as the wire that connects to your battery terminals, at least 1/4" diameter copper. That much power draw will stall your car because all of the battery power will be sucked right to the turbo unit, so you will need a separate battery system just to power the turbo itself. What happens then is that the electric turbo is off most of the time under normal conditions and the air enters the engine through the 'normal' non-turbo air intake. At this time the car's electrical system slowly re-charges the turbo's separate battery. Then when you need a sudden boost of power, you hit a switch on the steering and the turbo battery disconnects from the car's main electrical supply, and the turbo sucks power from the separate turbo battery only, the extra boost of air enters the regular air intake from a separate side pipe, and this extra pressure then closes a flapper valve on the air intake to prevent boost air from exiting out the air intake. The boost air then enters the engine at much higher pressures than normal. This boost can be maintained for only as long as the separate boost battery can supply power, which is not that long. As soon as the electric turbo starts to die down, the boost pressure falls down, the intake flapper valve then opens up and air enters the engine using the normal air intake route, not from the turbo. This system can work wonders but it is very complicated, very large, and very heavy, and is very seldom used because of those factors. A much simpler and much smaller idea is to just use NOS instead (Nitrous Oxide), it gives the same results as the above '2-intake' electric supercharger system and won't need a huge amount of space under the engine for the entire setup.

metralha761: Hi, thanks for that explanation in the video! I'm trying to find asynchronous supercharger project, well at least is what I call it. Why call that? the concept is between the conventional turbo charger and an electric super charger, with what I have in my mind, I think it's possible to have high pressure with electric super charger.

no bad words hash: thanks a lot 

Loretta Bain: What's for dinner dude?

jayden hewer: Electric superchargers are a great idea if pushed into production for people like me who wants to increase there performance without getting down and dirty with manifolds and drive belt systems. people like me would be happy with 3-4 psi of boost, if you want 18 psi get a turbocharger. Do you foresee electric turbos being available to the consumer any time soon? Is a system the is natural aspirated when the supercharger is off a possibility? This would be excellent for a capacitor system. 

2bidfilmsguy: wouldn't it just be a better idea to run an electric motor up to a centrifugal supercharger? instead of having the pulley run by a belt off the engine it could just be mated to a motor, and that way hypothetically you could make peak boost almost instantly rather than at red line which would be a drawback of the same supercharger being run off an engine belt

janoah365: man build me one..lol

Tyler Looney: how did you make that real supercharger into an electric supercharger i would love to know, because im in the process of building up my 98 chevy metro into a custom turbo gasser but i dont have alot of money to do much. so i would love to know how to make and install your custom prototype electric supercharger. please make a video in the near future on how to construct and install the prototype. thank you

NeverEnough: Hey Bro, your link to the build is dead. I'd like to see your plans. Thanks.

Jr Ram: Where can I buy one

Jacob Regamey: any updates? what motor is ideal? what rpm for how much pressure etc

Anthony Gillian: the turbo makes boost because it spins at 100,000X a minute, while your electric fan is just wasting electricity 

Rob Sewell: Where can I get one will it work on a 98 maxima

hotpapayasalad: according to ohms law it doesn't work. you're taking power to make power and what's worst you're taking power from the electric system from your vehicle which it need the most. your lights will dim, your spark plug will not fire to its full potential which results lost in horsepower and poor gas mileage. its like adding a stereo system in your car with out any modification done. any INDUCTIVE LOAD such as elector motor will pull mass amount of juice. you'll over work your alternator!!!
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