Gogoreview: Hmm... Very interesting. I am going to experiment with the Glock 26 and Sig P938 and see if I get similar pattern side by side. I usually don't shoot 2+ compact in one setting.
XD40Colorado: I shot my (brand new) P938 today for the first time....At first, yeah, I sucked...All over the place. By the time I put 100 rounds through, I was able to keep 3" groups at 10 yards. And I'm not a new shooter...wonder if the first batch of Sigs had issues?
sethlaw311: Good video guys. I wish the other guys would have stopped shooting for a few and watched the review but what do you do?. You guys are great shooters, It would be tough for anybody to just walk up shoot that well with that many different guns and triggers. Hickock and you guys are my favorite to watch. Just for fun maybe do a hi point 45 vs 1911 accuracy test. I always shock the 1911 fans at the range with mine.
MegaChubbyboy: Glock 26 and Ruger LC9 were the only two with all 6 rounds in the outer ring...and I own them both.
CandRreviews: They are very similar in recoil and I don't notice a huge difference. They are both very manageable considering their size. I apologize for getting back to you so late.
captainpegs07: Is the CW9 noticably more snappy with the single recoil spring vs the Shield?
CandRreviews: Thanks for your support and best regards!
Christopher Pratt: I own a 938 that drops the first shot asa well. IT's not just you guys. I have heard it from others as well. There are more than just 6 experienced shooters coming up with the same results. Thanks again for the great reviews guys. You are doing a great service.
Christopher Pratt: Nice review guys! By the way...the one guy at the end couldn't wait a total of 9 minutes to hold off his shooting for the courtesy of your video? What an a-hole.
Christopher Pratt: nice review guys!
KillerCams101: Hey dudes, I love the vids but in the defense of the P938, I and everyone I go to the range with shoot my P238 low. However, after extensive practice, I now shoot the 238 extremely well. I believe it has a lot to do with the fact that it is a mini 1911 and most expect the trigger to be like butter! Unfortunately it is primarily for carry and so the trigger like most in this category, sucks! I would keep trucking with the SIG! It is a great gun once you get your trigger control down.
CandRreviews: Hey Shawn, 5 shooters shot this same gun with the same results. Even Sig says in their manual that there are some of their guns that shoot extremely low and if you get one, change out the sights. You shouldn't have too! We did see your disrespectful comments on another channel so you are now blocked. Stay off our vids and go freak yourself!
Shawn Hinzman: There's no way the gun shot THAT low... It has to be you.
CandRreviews: When you post a video of you doing better, YOU can talk crap. 5 different shooters shot this gun with the same results. This gun shot low. Did you even watch the damn video? The evidence is right there! We own other Sig pistols and know how to shoot them, and where to aim with them. They shoot point of Impact rather than point of aim. We are tired of being compared to Hickok45 because we do an entirely different type of testing. Also Hickok does not shoot 230yds.
nikomartaug: The Sig has combat hold(12 o'clock) sights(just like H&K and Walther), whereas the others all use 6 o'clock hold sights. Big difference if you are not used to it.
If you are dropping the first shot everytime that means you are anticipating the shot.
When you make a 230 yd shot on a steel plate you can talk crap, but until then hickok45 owns your ass.
dashhboardtakethat: great video. keep doing side by side multi gun reviews like this.
CandRreviews: Hickoks vid is entirely different. We are aiming at 3" circles while he is shooting oblong objects. Plus he is compensating for the drop of the round so he can hit his far targets. when he puts it on paper I will give a crap what his results. 5, I repeat 5, different experienced shooters shot this pistol and ALL experienced the same results. Could we have gotten a bad 938............plus I own the 238 with same trigger amd have no issues...hmmmm.
MegaChubbyboy: Funny how the most expensive gun here, the Sig, had the worst groups and the LC9 (cheapest of the 5) had the best groups.
Earl Chambers: 21 feet is the CCW qual in NC. If you are missing you need range time. I shoot 60 feet and the LCP has huge bullet drop due to being a 380 so I traded it for the 938. If you like SOA or single action only then the Sig is the only choice. If you like stryker fired then M&P and G26 are your best choice. The Glock allows changeout of the trigger connector bar to 3.5 lbs.
Earl Chambers: you were flinching on the 938 dude
RaylinGivens: Well done, guys. This is the first of your vids I've watched, will sub.
SNORATRat: Oh and those safety features you talk about on the Ruger LC9, very easy to correct. Even the mile long trigger pull which is completely insane even for a Conceal Carry weapon. My trigger is now just under half the stock pull length with a little work to the trigger bar and hammer. Makes it a much better weapon in my opinion.
SNORATRat: Now my Sig was a totally different animal. At 16 feet I could cover all the holes in the center of the target with the bottom of a pop can. Groupings stayed fairly tight all the way out to 15 yards. I even cleared a couple mags from more then 40 yards out and I could cover all the wholes with a regular sized paper plate. That is pretty good considering the sights completely covered the paper at that distance. Oh and all testing with both pistols were win white box 115 FMJ
SNORATRat: I have to comment also. I own both the Ruger LC9 and a Sig P938 extreme. My two pistols mus be from different batches or something. My LC9 is terrible as far as accuracy goes. Out of the box it was 3 inches left and 5 inches low. By unpinning the front sight, I was able to shift both sights enough to get that part corrected. I had to shave the front sight down to about 1/4 its original height to get the elevation correct at 16 feet out to 15 yards.
johnnieace45: Gosh, I am thinking about getting rid of my Equinox P238 and picking up one of those M&P Sheilds
Greg Harness: p938 that is
Greg Harness: Yup I bought one of these two weeks ago and you DEFINITELY have to use higher grain ammo.
mangosnapper35: Awesome range review guys, don't mind the haters. I own the 938 Extreme with the extended grip mag (big improvement) and have had absolutely no issues with accuracy at all. I will say that if you are not used to shooting single action 1911 style weapons you will have to give it some range time to come to terms with it. I also think that fact may have come into play going from double to single.
The biggest advantage to the Sig is it's small size and ability to be carried.
58landman: CandR, do you know if the trigger on this gun can be worked on to smooth it out. And....what about the serrated back strap on the pistol's handle. That thing cuts raw blisters in my hand to the point that I need to use a shooting glove if I shoot more than a few rounds. Any recommendations?
jeremyfl: Great video as always!!!
Jon Boivin: I was going to get the Kahr PM-9 but the top of the trigger has a sharp edge that I could feel with my fat fingers. The Ruger LC-9 was more comfortable for me. I bought the Ruger LC-9. I am still getting used to the long trigger pull. Nice carry gun though.
CandRreviews: I agree with you....I think Sig should have lightened the trigger if it was going to have a safety. It would have made it that much easier to shoot. Thanks for commenting!
CandRreviews: The lc9 is a great gun but I am really not crazy about the trigger and the ridiculous amount of safeties. The gun is very nice and the recoil is manageable but if I was currently in the market i would go with a Kahr cm9 or a m&p shield if I wanted a safety. I was also recommend handling all of them prior to purchase.
jvlmxz: hey guys love ur vids and reviews must be fun testing all these guns, my question is I shoot my sr22 and my taurus pt-22 better than my G-26 (stock sights) and my sig p-238, although I do shoot the sig better than the glock, I was considering an LC9 as my next try, do to the fact I may do better with the DAO trigger pull what do u think? thanks again.
gookmarathon: thanks for your information. i've been definitely considering the the p938 for a carry gun. i'll have to handle it before i make my decision though.
Jon A. Keary: It's a shooter problem. I have a 1911 .45 Kimber and I can bust baseballs at 30-45' with it regularly. These small frame guns require a different holding technique and an instructor at my range proved that to me today. He put 5 different rounds in the pistol and shot an orange sized group at 30' having never shot the gun before. I like mine fine and I probably bought it because it is definitely a beauty and...best of all...I can see that trigger.
Jon A. Keary: I think the P938 has the ability to be an ideal CC gun but it might make sense to get some instruction if you're used to shooting 1911 sized .45s and revolvers. I will say that the P938's mag spring is strong and it's hard for me, at 62, to get more than 4 rounds into the mag. The other headache is the serrated back strap had a tendency to scrape the skin of my palm/thumb area.
Jon A. Keary: I just got a P938 and mine was shooting left and low...not even hitting my silhouette target. I had one of the instructors at the range shoot it and he shot 5 into an orange sized group at 10 yards or so. He told me that my gun hand should not grip very tightly and to allow my support (left) hand provide the support. I went back in with a box of 50 Federal 115s and although my groups weren't great most of them hit the chest of the target. The gun is fine, it just requires a different grip.
MegaChubbyboy: Looks like the Glock and LC9 are the winners...and those are what I have. The Sig sucked and it's the most expensive!
thefranchise564: Just got my ccw permit and I realy like this video. Thanks for posting it. Now that I have my ccw, im looking for a cheap handgun. Which one would you recommend among these 4 pistols, price wise, reliability, and accuracy?
gookmarathon: omg that sig has terrible results. is it just the shooter? (no offense) or is it the gun?
Red7552: Good video, and really good shots from both the second dude had five great groups
12GaugePadawan: Great vid guys! When I go from gun to gun to gun, I totally suck because it takes me a while to get used to each one. Just wondering if shooting from the bench might be a better indicator of how accurate the guns are since each gun "handles" a little differently, and you don't have time to acclimate to each gun in your vid.
bellpoint2001: I own a Sig 938 Extreme. I had the same problems as you did in this video, so I sent the weapon back to Sig and they said "nothing is wrong with this weapon". I disagree! I love Sig weapons, but this weapon couldn't hit water if you through it out of a boat.
ferdiedude: Ill sum it up for peeps with slow internet... The sig shoots like a ft low and sucks balls, the glock and m&p are nicely accurate... And the kahr shot the tits off a gnatt.. There you have it. Great review btw
CandRreviews: Usually the range is so packed it is hard to call a range cold to do just that. Plus I believe it usually 20 mins from the time of the last range cold.
propdoctor21564: Good test but you could have put up a new target when changing shooters._ :-)
CandRreviews: If you don't like it, don't watch. We do the best we can and your criticism is not needed!
firefighterretired: I have tried watching your videos - work on back ground noise and Please ONE person talk, not both at the same time and try and keep camera steady.. still usable info
Sig P938 vs M&P Shield vs LC9 vs Glock 26 vs CW9 Accuracy Test4.7
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