Cybergun - KWC Tanfoglio Witness 1911 CO2 Gas Blowback Review Part 1




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Devin Jordan: Awesome gun

MARK SKINNER: Hi, this is a great review, I very much agree with your opinions on this pistol. I have just bought one myself, mine is the Colt 100th Anniversary edition, exactly the same gun. I noticed with mine once giving it a good look over that the machining is rather flawed on the slide, if you look on the underside of the front of the slide its not perfectly circular, I can actually see where the steel has been machined poorly, you can see and feel ridges in the metal, also evident running across top of the slide, most people wouldn't notice, but I'm curious to know if your's is machined the same or if mine is an unlucky example. I cant quite tell in your video?

hikinguphigh: Did u purchase from a shop or can you get them online in the uk

milkster1001: Haha, cheers dude, appreciate it. You could say 8:44 as well. ;)

Muz1cPr0gam3rz: What are you talking about the accuracy on this gun is great.

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 What ever they are they cant be fully original because then they would be semi-auto which is illegal in this country unless they are for military or police use. It never crossed my mind when writing my last post but they could have had their gas systems removed and be straight-pull's? Collected my Sig X-Five today, have you got yours yet?

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 Yeah just hope the laws dont get any tighter after last nights shootings in Durham. Not to say I'm going to but if I went off my rocker and was going to commit a murder, out of respect for the shooting community I'd use something other than a gun.

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Yeah I know, that was rediculous, but then again, the same crap happens all over the world, you just don't hear about it. The UK firearm laws aren't as bad as I thought actually, just checked over an application form for a firearms license, that I picked up a few months ago, you can fire all kinds of calibres, a place near me sells MP5s, old ex service SLRs, an AK-47, even a .50 cal elephant rifle, it's just all about where you shoot, your own land or at an official club.

Torjus Nilsen: is it possible to put a silencer on it? btw great vid:)

erabian sam: Pellpax don't sell it any more :(

josh sapsford: is it to made of steel or aluminum alloy?

ViewerSonic: I have this gun .177 BB version and I think the accuracy is great. I can fairly easy get groupings that keeps most BB's with in a square inch with a few strays from about 6-7meters. And thats actually quite a bit better then I expected when I bought it.

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 What translucent suction cap? Is the BB still in there, I'll tell you how to easily get it out if so. I've not had the problem since either, I lube all around the blowback chamber just to keep it smooth. When pulling back the slide on the 1911 there is a sticky patch which I think is the way the barrel locks into the slide. Yes my Sig has the paragraph and I presume all of them do. It isn't as bright and doesnt stand out as much as some video's seem to suggest.

milkster1001: @hikinguphigh I bought mine online actually, from Crawley Surplus Store, very friendly and helpful guys. Also, check out a website called Pellpax, they deliver to your door, I've heard good things about them. Pellpax are a bit cheaper I think.

bob dunsmere: Which one do you prefer, this Tanfoglio or the Sig sauer p226 x5?

DJS7P: Great review mate :) Been thinking about getting into air rifle/bb gun shooting myself.

Little Holmes: Plain and simple Excellent Gun, along with a EXCELLENT review !!! Thank you .

shdxc: For real looking, can try KSC 1911A1 it is nice as well.

Karl Hendry: ill try to get a video out soon mate, stay tuned.

FPSCockRoach: Well, there's is an alternative to rifling with bbs. The TW Colt has a little block in the barrel to give it a back, which reduces the chance of it forming an arch.

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Yeah, I don't think our firearm laws will change for a long time, it'll take a miracle for the government to change their ways and be more lenient. I wish they'd give us a chance though, for those who have a passion for shooting. As for the MP5's and AK's etc, I don't know if they were converted to fire .22 rimfire, but if you can fire a .50 cal round legally, then those MP5's, the SLR and AK, they could well be original, firing 9mm and 7.62mm, which are legal calibres.

W00LFY100: @W00LFY100 ...It has the black slide as I got it before the VCRA law came in, I could fix it but I'd have to buy a new gun (same price as Sig X-Five) with blue slide and then swap them over. Whats to stop anyone getting the blue slide version and buying the spare metal slide as I think there's no age limt or anything on buying spares. My gun broke by the part which reroosters the hammer snapping off due to being pot metal, the selector also shook loose haha was extremely fun while it worked though.

FPSCockRoach: *back spin

milkster1001: Thank you dude, much appreciated!

xx1simon1xx: i just cant figure out how to get this in germany -,- it should be legal, having the F but somehow no retailer in germany has it yet -,- its just so beautiful :(

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Yeah, Yeah that's true, they must be .22 rimfire, I can't imagine the dealers wanting to lose the semi auto capability with the MP5, AK and SLR, I guess there's a possibiity that they were converted to have a straight pull roostering mechanism. I'll have to go in and check it out. As for the Sig, getting mine Sunday, what is like? I bet it looks and feels awesome. Looking forward to getting mine.

Twinkie Cakey: Is it possible to get one like that, but Green Gas operated? I love it. :D

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Ah yeah, sorry I missed that Glock post, 18c you had, bet that was good fun! Trust me, the Sig is brilliant, a lot more accurate than the 1911, I shot a small deodorant can from about 20 yards away, maybe just under, with an 18 round mag, EVERY single shot hit it, the mag cycled flawlessy too, I was well impressed. Looking forward to doing a review on it.

milkster1001: @airgunfan1999 I compare the two guns in part 2 and 3 of my Sig review. I conclude by saying which gun I prefer, plus I explain why, so check it out dude, hopefully you'll find it really helpful.

milkster1001: @joshboy1st I believe it's made of Steel mate, it's a well built, solid and sturdy pistol, I'm sure she could survive some knocks and bumps like any Firearm. Thumbs up from me for the build quality buddy.

Legacy Airsoft: @milkster1001 also there would be no slide lock function in the non-blow back magazine. that's the main difference between the two.

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 Maybe it's just me being biased because I love 1911's. Glad you liked yours. What brand of co2's do you use out of interest? Yeah the Glock was awesome fun but it shook it's self to bits and the gas it ran on was £10 per bottle but I suppose it was about the same price per shot as co2. I should've got a propane bottle and adapter maybe would've been cheaper. I look forward to your review.

Harrysun5134: it is coming on tuesday! cant wait to shoot it!

CrunchyNutTEST: Awesome review. I have the same gun, you've got it spot on.

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Thanks for that mate, I'll remember that! What website was it for £80? Are they reliable though, that's what I always like to know. I'll have to get an SMK catalogue, be good to look through. Yeah, I can't wait to get my Sig, I bought a Streamlight TLR-1s tactical light, which I'm planning on fitting to the Sig, it'll be sweet. After owning it for a few months, I'll upload a review of that too :)

thebiggesboy: is it full metal i mean like the barrel,the frame and the slide?

dumpywhite: Not true. Steel BB CO2 guns have unrifled barrels, which causes the spherical bb's to spin in unreliable ways. Also the shape of the projectile is highly influenced by the quality of the finish, any imperfections will cause some sort of difference in trajectory.

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 No pistols or semi-auto rifles (.22 rimfire semi-auto rifles are allowed) MP5's, SLR's and AK-47's?? They are either de-activated or .22 rimfires. As for .50 cals and big bore guns anyone can own them as long as they aren't semi-auto or under a certain length as with all rifles. You also need access to suitable land or a range to own a .50 or similar. Search 'Gun politics in the United Kingdom' in wikipedia and all of that info is correct. The UK laws ARE as bad as you thought.

milkster1001: @97thegodfather Cheers! Not to sure about fitting a suppressor, as you'd need a thread at the end of the barrel. Since this hasn't got one fresh out of the box, I doubt there's any way to fit one, sorry dude.

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Really? They're the cartridges I used to get, I coulld of sworn they were a couple of quid postage? If P+P is free now, I might have to get some myself! £7.50 for 10 is a bit of rip off mate haha. I get my BB's off eBay too, red tub of 1500 for about £7 I think? Good quality as well, not the crapty copperhead BB's, they just leave copper deposits in your barrel.

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 I've been shooting since I can remember and my dad has a small armoury at the moment, with a few 12 bores and rifles from .22 rimfire through to a .308. He used to shoot pistols back in the day before the ban and had a real Springfield Armoury 1911A1 in .45 ACP, a Springfield 9mm and a S&W 686 in .357 magnum. I've never shot a real pistol yet but we are planning a trip to the Isle of Man soon and might watch the TT at the same time. Happy New Year! too btw.

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 Yeah my 1911 hasn't got the paragraph on either. Yes that is the blowback chamber, the end of it locks into the barrel, forces the slide back when fired and detaches just short of the slide fully back, when fully back the hammer reroosters and shuts off the co2 valve. The recoil spring then pushes the slide forward, collects another bb and away you go again. I have a broken airsoft KWA Glock 18c in the parts bin that was fully auto and that worked the same, but with an internal hammer

TheFlyingPineapple: The closest you can get to a Colt 1911 in the UK is through the TSC 1911 - It's a .22lr 1911 style pistol, adapted for UK use. Also, you can own a number of handguns on the UK mainland if they meet regulation, check out this .44 Magnum for example! /watch?v=mDn8H1WqOA8

W00LFY100: @milkster1001 Well the Sig's pretty similar to the 1911 in function. Accuracy isn't as good from what I can tell so far after putting 1 CO2 through it not bad though. Shoots about 2 inch low at 15 feet and the group is also about two inches in diameter (might just be me having an off day though) but these guns aren't for target they're for CAN BASHING! haha and for that it's perfect. I'd say recoil is slightly less and as some forum's say dont load more than 15 bb's in unless you will get a jam.

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 That's where my BB got lodged once or twice, in that blowback chamber, where that translucent suction cap is. I disassembled the slide and applied a little bit of gun oil in that area, got it moving more freely, because I noticed it seemed to catch on a certain part of the mechanism when the slide was coming back, and I've never had the BB problem since. One question, does your Sig have the white paragraph of text on the right side of the slide?

milkster1001: @W00LFY100 Yeah, I can imagine the 1911 isn't far off the recoil of .22LR rimfire round, especially when fired from a pistol. I've fired quite a few guns actually, but never a pistol. My friend has, he shot an M1911 at Scottsdale Gun Club in Arizona, when on holiday, he's the one who I mention in the video with the modifications. He said from what he can remember, the Tanfoglio Witness looks and feels just like the real thing. Yeah, our firearm laws are pretty crap.

gabe dethomasis: the recoil of the bb gun is almost the same as a 22 i now cause of personal experiance but no way as close to the recoil on a real revolver go check my video on it

southblogstv: 5:45 = 3 sex sounding terms haha but great video man.. Awesome review and really nice camera, keep it up

lexiishark17: @lexiishark17 are awesome

dumpywhite: I thought that was a feature of airsoft guns, not steel bb's? regardless, that backspin may reduce vertical drop over distance but it's also more susceptible to traveling left or right due to the horizontal axis. I can't say I have a great shot, I just plink for the satisfaction of firing a projectile, but even my steadiest shot and the lightest trigger will always have a bit of a spread.
Rating:
Cybergun - KWC Tanfoglio Witness 1911 CO2 Gas Blowback Review Part 1 4.8 out of 5

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