Test Firing The .45 BPM In A Converted 1847 Walker Dragoon Revolver




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gabeHTMN: lol when he asked if i say the fire i blinked and was thinking "Dammit i blinked"

Syber Tiger: @curtisshawk Here you go: 250 gr PRS 0.452 BigLube 48gr Goex FFFg 1,032 ft/s 591 ft·lbf 200 gr J/P 0.452 BigLube 52gr Goex FFFg 1,161 ft/s 598 ft·lbf 150 gr EPP 0.452 BigLube 60gr Goex FFFg 1,306 ft/s 568 ft·lbf 141 gr 0.454 Roundball 60gr Goex FFFg 1,304 ft/s 532 ft·lbf

Syber Tiger: @minator3 In the video you'll see in one of the test firings that the loading lever falls. This is quite typical of a Walker revolver under heavy recoil. The solution to fix the problem is easy. Just use a rubber O-ring (faucet washer) that is large enough to go around the barrel and the lever. If you look carefully you can see it in the video.

Syber Tiger: @buckshotbandit000 Under heavy recoil the loading lever could fall which is typical of all Walker revolvers including the originals. A rubber O-ring (faucet washer) is a simple fix for this issue. The loading lever is more than enough to seat a 0.454 round ball when shooting the Walker in cap-n-ball percussion mode. For .45 BPM the loading lever obviously is not used.

Boom1850: Nice vid . Try a Swiss Black Powder . In compare to "regular" BP, gives me +30% muzzle velocity Remington 1858: 200gr 0,450 conical , 35 gr Swiss No1. 1141 ft/s

blokhed99: Great concept and video! One thing I'd love to see added: really good slow-motion footage. Consumer level cameras that can capture slow-motion are getting cheaper and cheaper. Did the gated Kirst Converter require fitting, or was it as easy as the old-style with the six firing pins? I've got one of them, but obviously the gated version looks more authentic, and is cheaper than having a gunsmith do the full conversion job.

63DW89A: "Revolving Holster Pistol" is the name used in Colt sales literature 1847-1860, for both the modern-termed "Walker" and "1st, 2nd & 3rd Dragoons". In U.S, Military terms 1830? to 1861, "Dragoons" were mounted troops trained to fight both as cavalry or infantry. As the Civil War started, all U.S. Dragoon units became U.S. Cavalry (the 1st Dragoons became 1st Cavalry, etc.). Colt's Revolving Holster Pistols were first issued to U.S. Dragoons & became known as "Dragoon Colt's", 1847 onward.

Syber Tiger: @blokhed99 The Kirst Converter does not require fitting as it is made to replace the cap-n-ball cylinder in an Uberti made Walker. However, to utilize the loading gate a channel has to be cut in the recoil shield to allow for breech loading of cartridges. The converter is designed for .45 Colt cartridges. To accept the longer cartridge of the .45 BPM the cylinder chambers have to be rebated to the length of a .45 BPM casing by reducing the length of the cylinder throats.

sean miller: do you have to rotate the cylinder by hand or will it still rotate with the converter in?

vanvideo9: How do you eject the spend casings? There doesn't seem to be an ejector rod.

BipolarPuffin: whats the first song called?

buckshotbandit000: How do you keep your loading lever in check? For such a big revolver its a little wimpy in the loading lever area.

Norm Vigas: My 1858 Remington .44 is not quite a walker 60 grain, but can still pack a punch. .457 L/ ball 145 grain with 30 grain B/powder. It's enough to stop most things, hahah.

raider2000Va: Now that is impressive

maczeti4: where i can buy a cylinder ?

Syber Tiger: @BipolarPuffin The first song (opening intro) is "Bittersweet Symphony" by The Verve.

sean miller: its a badass gun but its not a dragoon. its a colt walker.

sean miller: i see you made a latch around the barrel to stop the lever from falling. what did ya make it out of?

Syber Tiger: You are correct. I use a short wooden dowel to pop the spent casings out. They come out rather easily. The Walker is such a heavy revolver I can't imagine adding an ejector to the overall weight.

TerminatorFRA: The flames are really strange, looks like it's behind a glass or something. Nice video though, I nver thought I would be possible to use a round ball in a cartridge.

Syber Tiger: @busyhands94 Bore measurements for rifles are measured differently than handguns. With rifles the bore measurement is the groove diameter. On handguns the bore measurement is the lands diameter. Therefore, the .44 caliber number you pointed out is specifying the diameter between the Walker's lands. The Uberti Walkers typically have a groove diameter of 0.457 - 0.458. This means the 0.452 soft lead bullet is smaller than the groove diameter. Ergo, the bullet must expand to obturate the barrel.

Syber Tiger: Anywhere they sell Kirst Konverter products.

damocsell: very cool

busyhands94: that is just plain cool :) although isn't the walker 44 caliber? firing a 45 caliber soft lead bullet might shave a little bit of lead off the sides.

iknowmy3table: I just realized since this uses a .45 bpm cartridge, it should fall within the legal definition as a form of ammunition not readily available through conventional means. Therefore it should be able to enjoy the same legal freedoms as other cap and ball firearms

Syber Tiger: @minator3 The conversion cylinder rotates just like the percussion cylinder when you pull the hammer back.

Syber Tiger: @minator3 This is a common misconception. A Dragoon is actually a horse mounted soldier. Thus a Dragoon revolver is a revolver issued to a horse mounted soldier. Typically, the revolver is holstered in a saddle mounted holster NOT on your person. The term "Dragoon" revolvers as in 1st model etc. is a modern term NOT what Colt termed the revolvers. Colt actually called it the 1848 Horse Pistol which we now dubbed it Colt Dragoon 1st Model. The Colt Walker is a "Dragoon Revolver".

FotoandT: Great job on the video, not to mention the BPM!!
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